ERP 070: How To Gain Emotional Balance In Your Relationship With Sarina Stone
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Jessica: Hi, thank you for joining today’s episode. Today is episode 70, How To Gain Emotional Balance In Your Relationship, With Sarina Stone.
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Sarina Stone is an internationally renowned Medical Chi Kung (Qigong) instructor, Abdominal Massage expert, Natural Health Advocate and author of eight books.
After two decades of study in northern Thailand with Tao Master Mantak Chia, Ms. Stone has developed multiple self-help tools for stress relief, conscious manifestation, physical health and longevity. Known for her light-hearted approach to health and wellness, Sarina Stone is a colorful, beloved speaker and educator across the globe. Sarina, welcome!
Sarina: Hi!
Jessica: Hi! So for those of you listening, I have known Sarina for about ten years. She is a friend of the family, and I have had the opportunity to experience some of her teaching in a workshop – actually, it was when my husband and I were living in Boulder – and I have been blown away everytime I have come into contact with her teaching. It is really, really profound, so you’re in for a treat today. I’m so excited to have you on this show, Sarina.
Sarina: Thank you, Dr. Jessica. That was lovely. [laughter]
Jessica: Well, not only do I love you personally and who you are as a person, but also your teaching. So for the listeners that don’t really know what Taoist principles are, can you share a little bit, to help people get a little bit of the lay of the land?
Sarina: Sure. The word Tao has a number of translations in English. One of the translations means ‘the way of nature’, another translation is ‘the way without force’. A very common one is just ‘the way’. So basically what we’re talking about here, if somebody has a Taoist perspective – it’s not a religion, it’s just a philosophy – it means they’re looking for a natural way to handle any situation.
I am teaching Taoist medical Chi Kung, and yes, there is a seriously mental and emotional aspect to that. So we understand that word Tao now. Medical – you know that word. Chi is the Chinese word for energy, and Kung is the Chinese word for work. So what we’re teaching is energy work. And since it’s a medical focus on the energy work, and Taoist – so like many words, each one means something very important – it basically says in any situation, whether it’s going to be physical, mental, there is an energetic reason for why things occur. We’re vibratory creatures, we have molecules. Even emotions create brain waves, and those brain waves resonate, and when those waves hit solid objects, science has shown us that those objects begin to shift the molecules in and around that object shift, based on the vibration in that brain wave. Very complicated, but not really. It just says that it’s natural for your thoughts to make things happen. And it begs the question – what do you wanna have happen, and what do you believe is coming?
Jessica: I love that. And you have a personal story that you shared on Life-Changing stories that I can point people to… You’re saying this is profound and it’s also very simple, but the impact of it is extraordinary.
Sarina: Yes. Well, it can be. It depends on how messed up you are. And when I say messed up, I just mean if you’re unhappy or unhealthy, which go hand in hand, then if you actually found something that was natural that you could use for the rest of your life to continually feel less unhappy and less unhealthy, and maybe even live in a space of balance and optimal health, wouldn’t that just be amazing? That is profound, to have something that is already in you and accessible, to do when things get bad. Of course, one has to recognize that things are bad and that they’re making that happen. That’s the first part of the program, of course.
Jessica: Yes. Well, I’m not asking you to share your personal story right now, listeners will have access to that, but I think what I’m really pointing to Sarina is that usually what happens for people is they get motivated by pain. So if you’re saying that things get bad enough, which could be illness or relationship separation or divorce – real severe consequences that are alerting you to some real systemic problem around the way we’re thinking in the world, the
way we’re being with our body in the world, and that this can be healing and incredibly transformational.
Sarina: Well, yeah. [laughter] Well said. That’s exactly what I’m saying, and it sounds bombastic, and it sounds a little airy-fairy, but the truth is that thousands of people for thousands of years have been using their mind to create their reality 24/7; whether you like it or believe in it or not it doesn’t really matter, because it’s happening. Those few – and it’s a growing number, we’re all starting to get it now – people that understand that they’re not victims but actually they’re orchestrators of their own reality, they are the captain of their own ship, they just live in a totally different space, and it’s not bombastic, and it’s not poetry. It sounds like poetry, but we can prove now, because we have science, we have equipment, that we’re making all this happen. So it begs the question – if you’re not satisfied with your physical reality, whether it’s your body or relationships, your job, or just how you feel about the world in general, it begs the question, “Well, what am I gonna do about this?” But honestly, Dr. Jessica, people have to believe it. They have to believe that they’re the one creating their reality, and that’s not the bulk of society just yet. It’s such an old but new idea.
Jessica: It’s a huge paradigm shift.
Sarina: It’s a huge paradigm shift – very well said, once again. It’s a massive paradigm shift. In your industry, it’s your job to talk to a lot of people – you see, and even more than that, you feel the difference between those who are willing to take responsibility for what they’re created, and those who are just inconsolable, right?
Jessica: Yes, right. If we’re constantly looking at the world and reacting as if we have no ability to be a change agent, that’s incredibly tumultuous, right? It’s very reactive and victimy, like you’re saying. I think, like yourself and myself, that this is part of the initiation – we’re inviting people to look at this opportunity.
Sarina: What I think is really fascinating about this – I understand that your area of education is with mental, with the mind; my area is really with the body, but I had to start studying the psychology of humanity, because the largest contributing factor to physical health is mental health, period. I mean, unless you’re living and taking baths in a pool of mercury, really bombarded with horrible, horrible things where you’re just gonna die because it’s so physically toxic – unless that’s your situation, the largest contributing factor to someone’s health is their mental state. And it was after the first few years – I think I’ve been certified 21 years now as a Medical Chi Kung educator – it became really clear, even as a younger woman, that the largest contributor was mental health and the belief system. I had to get into the mental [unintelligible 00:11:52.06] That’s actually why I wrote my relationship books, because the number one most healthy thought that a human body can have is love. It could be for your spouse, it could be for your child, it could be for community, a project that one is really connected with in the heart – if things are good, then… I mean, anybody who’s ever been in love knows you actually feel different when those emotions come over you.
If you are in love with somebody and they reach out and touch your hand, there’s a physical reaction, a hormonal reaction takes place in the body; oxytocin is produced, we feel euphoric for a period of time. And anybody who’s been in love knows that it’s physical. You can stay up all night long, making love… [laughter] It’s true. You can stay up all night long making love, get three hours of sleep, wake up, feel like you’re on the moon, you have a ton of energy until maybe two in the afternoon, and then it gets kind of weird, right? [laughs] In the same way, what adult hasn’t had a friend who got violently ill from a broken heart?
Jessica: Right.
Sarina: Sorry, there’s no denying it as a human being that strong emotion has a direct effect on the physical body, so I had to get into that, I didn’t have a choice. It’s funny, as I get deeper and deeper into this area, which is really a combination of quantum physics, psychology, Taoism and medical Chi Kung – when you put it all together, this heavy relationship, it made my teacher, Master Mantak Chia look, look really smart. Well, it is the very first thing that you learn in the Universal Healing Tao System, which is what he named the system that he created – Medical Chi Kung Wellness System.
The very first thing that we learned how to do is this really simple exercise, and maybe we’ll do a little bit of it at the end of the show, that teaches us how to balance our emotions. And funny enough, it didn’t really hit me until many years after I started doing it, the fact that my intention is to have balanced emotion when I do my little exercise – it’s just all done in my mind – my intention of attaining a state of emotions where I have choices and I have balanced emotions at least 80% of the time (nobody is in control all of the time). That’s the first thing that we do, and a person could spend years on step one, just doing this little meditation to balance the emotions and get that energy moving.
Well, it just seems brilliant to me now. Once you understand that what you image, you create – once you really get that… No, that is not just some metaphor or poetry. Really – what you image, you create. You see it whether it’s there or not, and then eventually it really starts to show up. Once you get that, the burning question is, “Okay, how do I stop being an idiot and expecting bad stuff, because I’m just ruining myself? I’m ruining my experience down here.” Well, step one, when you study traditional Chinese medicine and in particular this kind of medical Chi Kung, is a little practice that I teach to children, to breathe in a positive emotion, exhale a negative emotion. You’ve gotta start understanding that your thoughts make things happen on a physical level. The best way to do that is to focus your thoughts on the physical body. Plus, we also understand that when the physical body is toxic and ill, the brain actually has a reaction to that. So we smile to our organs, breathe in a positive emotion, exhale a negative emotion… So it’s like this double whammy of dealing with the mentalness of being out of control and in control, and also focusing our thoughts in a positive way on the physical body. It’s brilliant!
Jessica: It is brilliant.
Sarina: It’s brilliant! I didn’t get how brilliant it was until I’d been doing it for years. But once I started studying quantum physics, it’s so brilliant in its simplicity, Dr. Jessica… I just re-fell in love with what I learned when I was being educated.
Jessica: Yes. Okay, for listeners, I just want you to know that this interview is only gonna scratch the very tippy top of the surface of this. Sarina has so much wisdom to share, but I think this is the intersect that I’m most excited about sharing her with you, because she’s talking about the relationship between the mind and the heart – there’s a lot of research that’s showing a lot of our intelligence is in the heart as well – but really the play between the body and the mind. So she’s talking about the beliefs, but not separate from the body. Sarina, I just told you a moment ago before we were starting this call that I think largely most people are going through their day very preoccupied – myself included – distracted, forward-thinking and really not as present to my body or my inner world as I’d like to be, and I think that relationship, the combination, it’s… Words fail me here.
Sarina: It’s everything. This is how I try to explain to people how important their physical health is, and how important it is that they put things on and in their body that are natural. Again, my area of education is this Taoism, this way of nature. Well, think about it this way – this is how I like to phrase it: most of us have had an experience where we have taken one or two pills and had a pretty massive reaction. You know, some pharmaceutical, or something you bought at the store for you head, cold or whatever. Alright, that’s just two pills. Imagine now an entire meal of pills, three or four times a day; whatever it is that we’re putting in our system has a massive effect. MASSIVE. In the Tao, we believe that the body actually has two brains. One of them is in the head, and the other one is the entire digestive system. Western medicine started catching up with that a few decades ago, totally agrees. You have neural transmitters in the [unintelligible 00:19:36.27] Your large intestine produces melatonin at night, just like your brain in your head, if it’s empty.
Even Andrew Carnegie, a hundred years ago – brilliant man, wonderful guy – was talking about what he called brain toxicity. When he saw in America in the ’20s that all of a sudden we had access to processed food, white sugar, fats that are insanely unhealthy, all these chemicals, we were starting to put chemicals in our foods, we were getting ready to industrialize and create food-flavored products… What he saw – he would watch people go to parties, consume alcohol, smoke, eat white processed sugar, flower that had no nutritional value and no life left in it by the way, and he would watch their personalities change as he was standing in the room. Now, I see it all the time. The first thing that I do when I get off of an airplane, I go right to The Organic Grocer. In any community, I don’t care if it’s an hour away from where I’m staying. Anybody who wants to host me, they know that’s how it’s gonna be.
Recently I’ve started traveling with my own cookware. I don’t care. I don’t care, if it’s one pot in my luggage and I know I’m not gonna get heavy metals or plastics leeching into my food, and I’m gonna eat five to six times a day – because I sort of eat one meal, start it in the morning and finish at night, basically… I need to make sure that I’m not getting toxins in them.
The difference between me and some of my friends or family or people that don’t have this education about what happens in the gut, how that affects the brain, the difference between me and them is profound.
Jessica: Okay. I will have the photo of Sarina – she is stunning. She is beautiful and vibrant and healthy, and I know my dear you do not look your age whatsoever. We don’t have to disclose your age, but…
Sarina: It’s okay. Actually, you know what? Post any picture you want. I haven’t put out any recent pictures less than a year and a half ago. I think the pictures I sent you were taken one and a half years ago, and one and a half years ago I was almost 50.
Jessica: Yeah. I mean, you look like you’re 30.
Sarina: Yeah, now I’m 51. But it’s not just the face; it’s the body, it’s the energy level… But what’s really different between me and those who eat fast food on a regular basis, or put chemicals on their skin, in their gut – my ability to think quickly, my ability to feel joy is totally different, because my body isn’t screaming 911 all the time. I don’t have inflammatory issues every day, I don’t have that. I feel when I feel something that inflames my body – I’m a female, I look in the mirror and I don’t like how it looks, so we have to stop that now.
Jessica: So Sarina, and for people listening – I am listening to you and I’m like, okay, it sounds as though you’re describing that this is what it looks like when you’re in relationship to your inner world from a place of balance. I don’t know if you know this, but before I even met my husband Reid – and Reid and Sarina have known each other for many years, and her brother was one of Reid’s really good friends in college… So that’s the connection. But before I even had met Reid, I think I spent a summer doing some Taoist meditation, and I love how you noted that it doesn’t have to be spiritual in nature. There were two instructors, and it was all about coming into contact with my inner world, and I remember at the time going, “Oh my gosh, it’s like, hi! I haven’t connected with you in a really long time.” Connecting with my inner world, and my inner being – I love what you’re saying, there’s so much science of it. But what you’re describing, I wonder, is this is what it looks like when you’re in relationship, more closely with yourself, in a balanced way?
Sarina: I’m thinking as a professional, to you it just goes without saying that in order to have a healthy relationship with someone else one must in a healthy relationship with themselves. In the old days, in the ’70s, we used to say “If you wanna love someone else, you have to love yourself first” – that’s totally true, and it’s not a metaphor or a poem, but now we’re just taking
it a little bit deeper. The level of self-awareness that I live in will be reflected in the level of connection that I’m comfortable having with others. If I’m not comfortable connecting to myself, what makes you think that I’m gonna realistically connect with you? It doesn’t make sense.
In the Tao, we just work on ourselves. We never tell our students or clients what’s going to happen next, because we really don’t know, we can’t homogenize the human race. But I can tell you, after 21 years of teaching self-knowledge and self-awareness – again, I’m not educated, I didn’t go to seminary, I can’t talk about spirituality, not professionally – what I’ve seen after a period of time of connecting the mind with the body, is a) it feels spiritual when you reconnect with yourself and nature, because that’s what happens; it feels pretty spiritual, love feels pretty spiritual. So as we open to ourselves, it’s just natural that our level of intimacy will also change. So it’s not like we tell you how it’s going to be, we simply say, “Well, work on yourself and let’s see what happens.” I would have to say like 99% of the time what happens is people’s relationships change. You just feel safer connecting with others when we are not living in a constant state of judgment or fear. We just allow people to be who they are; either you accept it or you don’t, it’s pretty simple, and that’s it. We don’t walk around waiting for the other’s shoe to drop, expecting betrayal, expecting something horrible or abandonment (that’s a really big one). If we don’t expect that, and we accept people the way they are, the chances of clearly seeing who we’re dealing with go way up. As a matter of fact, I would venture to say the more I clearly see myself and connect to myself and feel myself, the more I just naturally connect with and see what’s outside of me. Again, I don’t tell people that’s what’s gonna happen, but I would have to say 99% of the time it just does.
Jessica: Yes. So for people that are listening that have listened to my show, I think what Sarina’s talking about is a lot of the time – I’m gonna try to tie this in, Sarina, the best I can, for listeners… So in my field, Sarina, I am often talking to people about the way that they interpret one another, or they attempt to get certain needs met with certain strategies that typically aren’t very effective, or they’re reacting, or they’re projecting, so there’s a lot of distortion or noise going on. That can be very problematic; couples can be in this reactive state, but really they’re not connecting with what’s true for themselves underneath, and they’re not necessarily at all connecting with what’s true in their partner. It’s largely, “I’m afraid you don’t care about me and weren’t on time, therefore I’m mad at you and I’m gonna give you the cold shoulder. Then you ask me what’s wrong and I can kind of punish you for a little bit, and then feel like you care about me because you’re trying to find out what’s wrong”, but all of this is noise.
Sarina: That sounds like a waste of time to me, yeah. [laughter]
Jessica: So I think you’re inviting people into this place of intimacy with oneself that really allows — and I think I did an episode when I even had the analogy… I think this was related to forgiveness, but it’s almost like if you imagine you’re driving and you have your windshield,
and if you’re going on a long road trip, at some point you’re gonna need to clean the windshield, right? And if we’re not cleaning the windshield, the way we’re perceiving others, or even if we imagine what’s inside the car as our heart, or our being, we’re protecting ourselves, and there’s all this cred, and we’re not seeing others clearly, but we’re also not allowing anything in. Am I getting what you’re saying? Is this relevant to what you’re saying?
Sarina: Yes. [laughs]
Jessica: Okay, okay. Just another way of saying it. I’m just trying to give other language for it.
Sarina: Yes, and the thing is we get caught in this car, with the dirty windshield, and what happens – I’ve never met anybody who’s exempt from this – after a while we start believing that that’s real, and that’s it; that’s just how the world is – muddy windshield. And the more we see the results of that mindset, the more real it becomes. The more we expect it, the more it happens, until it’s like a mouse running in one of those wheels; it just keeps going, and going, and going, and unless something comes along to stop it, that’s kind of it. But what I think is fascinating about being on the planet right now, is that perfectly ordinary, normal people, who have no education, and Chi Kung, or psychology, are getting this message in their head that it doesn’t have to be like this. And they don’t even know why. They just know there’s something more going on here, and there’s a big interest in this conversation about creating our own reality. So okay, your friend, your boyfriend, or your husband, your wife was late; what part of you does this to people? So this is what we do in the Tao: we don’t project our stuff and say, “Hey, that was his/her fault.” No, no, no. Immediately, we train ourselves right away, “This negative thing crossed my path. What part of me resonates with that vibration? What part of me shows up late? Am I trying to get attention? Am I sending a message to someone? Am I purposely showing them that <<I know you hate it when I’m late, and now I’m gonna show up late and start all this crap with you because I have this need to have this drama play out>>” That’s what we do, we bring it back on the selves. Clean up the self, clean up the self! And then look at that individual again, seeing how you feel.
Jessica: Right. Okay Sarina, I can feel myself getting excited, and I have two directions in my mind, and maybe we can do both or maybe we can’t… But listeners, the other thing that I — I could do a whole episode on this, and Sarina, maybe we can or not, I don’t know, but your emphasis around sexuality and sexual health; how this being in relationship with your well-being, cleaning that windshield relates to sexuality. Because I think in mainstream America our messages about sexuality are largely related to media, and there’s a lot of lust. That serves its role, or there’s the romance phase, which also serves its role, but there’s so much more… I think you bring so much health and healing and empowerment around it, and I would love for you to speak to that a little bit if you will.
Sarina: Sure.
Jessica: Well, let me also ask the other thing that I was thinking about. You were doing talking about doing some practical application of just a very simple [unintelligible 00:33:59.15] around the emotional balance. I’ll let you choose where you wanna go.
Sarina: Well, why don’t we do – because I think that we’ve hit the timeframe that you like to keep your interviews – a little bit of inner smile meditation now? This is a meditation for attaining emotional balance. Anybody can do it. I can keep it down to about five minutes, and then we can be done, and people can keep this recording, or go to my website and just download the mp3 or the video. I think that would be good, and then if you like, why don’t we don an interview on the importance of sexual energy and sexual healthy attitudes? Because that’s a lot of information, and you’re right, it’s important. It is a life-changer, especially to anybody who’s losing energy through their sexual beliefs or their sexual behaviors.
Jessica: Okay, that’s a fantastic plan, because I do think that this episode here gives people a framework to be able to understand that conversation.
Sarina: I will say this, maybe something titillating so that your listeners feel compelled to listen to that next interview – what I’m about to take your through is step one of a complete daily practice for cultivating sexual energy. We don’t start taking lots of sexual energy, keeping it in the body and circulating it until the body and the mind have attained a certain level of self-control, and that means emotional balance. So step one of a complete daily practice is actually to sit down just for a few minutes and chill out, and get a grip on your emotions, balance out. [laughs] This is so people want to listen to our next interview.
Jessica: Okay. I love it, I love it. Okay, sounds great. So you would like to lead us in a mini experience…
Sarina: Sure.
Jessica: Okay, perfect.
Sarina: Alright folks… If you can, turn off your telephones and things like that, and just put yourself in a quiet space. Now, if you’re driving a car while you’re listening to this, just listen. Actually, the process I’m gonna bring you through can be done in a car. Obviously, it’s more important that you’re focusing on the road, but your body will actually have a little reaction just listening to this. I’m gonna recommend that people keep this recording and listen to it multiple times, or like I said, go to the website and just download… This practice is called The Inner Smile, and you can get the mp3, just listen to it.
Jessica: Okay, and I’ll put on the link on the show notes so that’s easily accessible for people, Sarina.
Sarina: Wonderful, great idea. So we’re just gonna start by doing just a quick little experiment – take a deep breath and close your eyes, and raise the corners of your mouth.
Smile. Think of a thing, a person, an event or a place that makes you smile. Now I’m gonna count from three to one backwards, and when I get to the number one – keep that smile going; it really starts in the eyes, even though they’re closed… Now, when I get to the number one, frown. Frown pretty severely, like dead puppies severely. Okay – smiling, we’re in our happy place… Smiling, three, two, one… Frown! Feel that. And open your eyes. The subtle difference that you maybe have felt… I know you, Dr. Jessica, you felt something. [laughter] It’s like a fish in the water with this… Well go ahead, tell me – what was the difference for you, between smiling and frowning?
Jessica: Yes, well smiling, I felt this joy, and my heart felt expansive, and just felt warmth and glee, and then the count 3-2-1, and then when I frowned I felt like my heart was breaking, and I felt sad, and it hurt.
Sarina: There you go. That physical difference is actually also stimulating glands to produce hormones in the body, and over time that would have an impact on cellular division, your ability to absorb nutrients, whether or not when your cells divide, they divide happy or unhappy, in a healthy or unhealthy way. For some people that are listening, what you felt was subtle, for others it was not so subtle but pretty major, like Dr. Jessica. And for others, they felt absolutely nothing. It’s okay. We call this a practice because in order to master it you have to practice. Then it becomes a part of you, and you’ll just use it; you don’t actually have to sit down and practice a few times a week.
I’m just gonna take you through one organ today, so we can wrap up. There will be five organs on the full meditation. So let’s go back and close our eyes again. I happen to believe that without positive vibrations from our beautiful red heart, none of these Taoist practices actually work. When we connect the heart with our intention, everything changes for the better. It’s the power of love – again, not a metaphor, not a poem. So let’s close the eyes and get a good smile going. You can imagine there’s a golden ball of smiling energy in the face, and then let that golden ball of smiling energy float down slightly left of your sternum, to where your beautiful red heart is. And just smile to your beautiful, red heart.
In front of your face now is a red mist, and this is the red mist of love. The heart has a positive and negative emotion. We have love, and we have hatred and cruelty. So let’s breathe in as we’re smiling, breathe in the redness of love; fill the heart with the red color, and just exhale through your mouth or your nose the dark, grey, cloudy mist of hatred and cruelty. [exhale sound] Again, smile; breathe in, fill that heart with the red color of love, exhale hatred and cruelty. [exhale sound] Keep smiling, let that smoke just come out; let it go down into the earth or up into the sky, it doesn’t even matter. Last one, smile, breathe in love, fill your heart with the red color… [inhale sound] Ah, that feels so great… And exhale [exhale sound] hatred and cruelty out. Now just take a moment, smile to your beautiful red heart, and let the red color of love radiate out and affect every cell in your body. With your mind, see it happen. It happens in a pinprick of a moment; every cell will react to the vibration of love coming off of the heart, and it’s real. And just take a moment now to rest. [exhale sound] And, we’re back. Hello!
Jessica: Hi… Sarina, what a gift. Like you’re saying, it’s available in a moment. We probably took several minutes to do that, with your guidance and your leadership and your support, and that inner shift that can happen is so profound… Thank you.
Sarina: Our new medicine is quantum medicine – it’s the smallest for the biggest possible reaction. What we’re doing here is just slowly integrating ourselves in a new way of thinking. Most of my students are very comfortable with it, but honestly the young people today, Dr. Jessica, they’re doing something more quantum; they’re just ceasing to believe in negativity, holding a new vision, and that’s what they live in. So what will happen is those who just tried the heart meditation – yes, you may have to do this for a few minutes for a while, but what does happen very naturally is after you have it memorized and it becomes a part of you, you realize that your heart’s in the wrong place… Because even too much joy is too much, right? So if you’re over the top and you’re imbalanced in some way, what we have found is you just think about inner smile, and the result that you would get happens. But first we train it so we understand the finer workings of it, and kind of get that benefit.
Jessica: Wow. Okay, Sarina, thank you so much. I would love to give you an opportunity to highlight, underscore, say anything to complete, or just go right to how people can connect with your work, how people can get started if they’re intrigued and very interested in your teaching or your offerings.
Sarina: Well, let’s go right to that. I do have a website, and that has my contact information. My website is SarinaStone.com, and go ahead and check it out. These listeners really want to take a look at that Inner Smile… There’s Inner Smile and 6 healing sounds where we take it deeper, but I want to encourage everybody out there… Also, if you’re gonna buy one of the lessons, either audio or video, feel free to drop me an e-mail. Ask me a question, tell me what your goals are, so that I can help you hold a particular vision that’s just for you. www.SarinaStone.com
Jessica: Great. Well, I wanna encourage people to do that. These links will be on the show notes for you to have, easily accessible. Again, Sarina, just great gratitude for your sharing and your teaching and your guidance today. It was phenomenal, and I look forward to having you again very soon.
Sarina: Thank you so much, Dr. Jessica. It’s been a pleasure.
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Thank you so much for joining today’s episode. Again, this is How To Gain Emotional Balance In Your Relationship With Sarina Stone. If you would like access to the links mentioned, you can find that on my show notes, which is on my website,
DrJessicaHiggins.com. Click on Podcast, and you can find the most recent episode there at the top. Again, this is episode 70.
If you have a question related to a relationship concern, feel free to reach out to me, leave me a voice mail on my website. Again, you can find that on my Contact page of my website, which is DrJessicaHiggins.com. I will respond, and I look forward to creating a podcast episode on your topic.
Until next time, take great care.
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